End of Watch, a short story from New York City.

End of Watch, a short story from New York City.
In June 2010 S and I arrived in The Netherlands with the notion of finally ‘settling down’. Yes, it was time to get ‘proper’ jobs. To buy an apartment, maybe have kids and all that malarkey. What could possibly go wrong?
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“He’s not shaking hands with anyone!” announced the chubby Asian guy from CNN. “They say he’s got a cold, but who knows, maybe he’s just in one of his moods”. A general murmur of disapproval rippled around the room as this revelation sunk in.
There was a cocked eyebrow from the mousy little BBC woman. Folded arms and a huff from the bespectacled, grey-haired man from some Nordic TV station I couldn’t pronounce.
As the new kid on the block, I decided not to comment. Hell, I was just happy to be there. In fact, sitting in New York City’s Crosby Street Hotel waiting for my interview with Jake Gyllenhaal was a surreal moment. At some point, coffee in one hand, a giant aniseed glazed donut in the other, it hit me that this was my job!

The Crosby Street Hotel, New York City.
After years of teaching English around the world, I’d somehow managed to blag my way into a job writing and voice presenting movie news. And now I was about to do my first press interview with a Hollywood A-lister. The expression I had to pinch myself didn’t even begin to cover it.
End of Watch, a short story from New York City.

End of Watch, a short story from New York City.
The buildup to my arrival in NYC had been somewhat dreamlike. Back in Amsterdam I’d been sent off to a pre-screening of the movie End of Watch, a gritty L.A. cop flick in which Gyllenhaal starred opposite Michael Peña.
The movie was pretty good, a winning combination of ferocious action, sharp dialogue and fully-fleshed characters audiences could care about. I’d been a huge fan of Gyllenhaal for years, going all the way back to his child star days in City Slickers and A Dangerous Woman.

Jake in City Slickers.
There was so much I wanted to discuss with him. I wondered how it felt growing up in a moviemaking family. Moreover, I wanted details from the set of Brokeback Mountain when he worked with the late Heath Ledger.
Furthermore, I would’ve loved to hear about being directed by David Bowie’s son Duncan Jones in Source Code. But all of that was pie in the sky, because I’d only be getting ten minutes in Jake’s company. Hence our conversation would be strictly on End Of Watch. You can’t have everything I suppose.
“This is Leighton Thomas from The Netherlands. He’s with Old Harbour Productions”.

Jake Gyllenhaal with Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain.
The spacious interview room was a decadent man cave decked out in framed movie posters, leather sofas and lamp-laden shelving. At the far end, to the side of the popcorn machine and minibar, sat a giant mahogany pool table. It seemed to have been abandoned mid game.
And then I caught sight of Jake, sat at the back of the room stretching his limbs in a brown armchair. Behind him, a posse of unknown men munched on sandwiches at a long, glass table. None of them paid me any attention whatsoever.
“Hi” I said tentatively, dropping into the vacant chair opposite Jake. “Hey” he replied with a throaty sniff, reaching for the cup of coffee on the table beside him. “How are you feeling?” I asked, as a lady appeared out of the shadows to hook me up with a microphone.
“Ah, I’m a bit under the weather.
But it’s not so bad, you know, all I gotta do is sit here and talk”.

End of Watch, a short story from New York City.
With a full head of scraggly hair and an equally fulsome beard, this was not the Jake Gyllenhaal I’d expected. Indeed he looked a million miles from the clean cut boy-next-door handsomeness of his many movies. He was also unrecognisable from the shaven-headed tough guy look he’d adopted for End of Watch. “Ok Leighton… you have speed in three, two, one… rolling!”

Before my trip to New York, I’d spent hours in the office watching archive interview footage on the company server. As interesting as the interviews were, I often found myself frustrated by how wasteful and uninventive interviewers had been with their precious time.
Some of it was truly perfunctory, with a hundred and one “What was it like working with {insert actor’s name here}?” in addition to a zillion “Do you see any similarities between yourself and your character?”
End of Watch, a short story from New York City.

“If you ask me the character similarity question I’m going to kill you”.
With actors having to do 40-50 interviews a day, it is no wonder they get tired, bored and irritable. As a result, I promised myself that I’d do my best to come up with something different. I wanted to surprise Jake by asking some questions nobody else would think of. Thus I began with:
“I heard that you spent months researching the life of an L.A. cop. But be honest, how much of that time actually went on perfecting the wedding dance scene?”
He looked at me for a second, a wry smile forming at the sides of his mouth. And then he burst into laughter, his eyes closed for just a moment. His top row of front teeth sparkling in the dimness.
Jake Gyllenhaal.

Interviewing Jake Gyllenhaal about ‘End of Watch’, October 2012.
Jake: “You know that wedding dance, we spent hours on that… getting it JUST right. And it was clear from the beginning that I obviously have a distinct sense of style and rhythm and… ha ha! NO… I think we just nailed it in like twenty minutes. The rest of the time was spent learning what it’s like to be an L.A. cop”.
Leighton: “People have made a lot of your look in the movie. I read one review that described you as ‘bald and beefy’. Does it frustrate you that people tend to concentrate on stuff like this?”
He gave me a patient smile followed by a shrug of the shoulders.
Jake: “This is the world we live in. You know, we’re all animals and sometimes we tend to focus on the visual. But I’m not interested in all that. Rather, I try to choose work that speaks to me and find characters and storylines that reel me in.
End of Watch, a short story from New York City.

End of Watch, a short story from New York City.
Jake: “All the rest… the hairstyle, putting on a bit of weight, who’s dating who, it’s all secondary to me. As the character in the play I’m doing now says: It’s all much of a muchness”.
Leighton: “I heard there was some friction on set between yourself and Michael Peña. Is there any truth in that?”
Again Jake remained completely unflustered.
Jake: “As ever these things get blown out of proportion. Sometimes people forget that actors are often just thrown together. Maybe you haven’t worked together before, or you come from different backgrounds. Basically you’re expected to just click and become best friends.
Life doesn’t always work like that, you know? In our case we just had to find our way of doing the job. In the end we did and there really wasn’t any more to it than that”.
Jake & Michael.

Jake Gyllenhaal with Michael Peña in End of Watch.
“Thank you Leighton!” said the woman, as Jake leaned back in his chair with a manly grunt-stretch. “Hey, did you like the movie?” he asked, locking his eyes firmly into mine. “I did!” I confirmed, mightily relieved that I wasn’t in a situation where I had to lie.
“I think it’s the best thing you’ve done since Brokeback”. He raised both eyebrows at this, pursing his lips together thoughtfully. “Thanks man!” he said and with a long sniff shuffled over to the table to claim one of the few remaining sandwiches.

End of Watch, a short story from New York City.
“Leighton Thomas, End of Watch!” called the scruffy man in the back office.
It was time for me to pick up my flash disk. So I strode out of the press lounge and down the corridor to claim my treasure. As I went, Anna Kendrick suddenly emerged out of a side door in front of me. She had a petite handbag slung over her shoulder, a cup of coffee clutched protectively in both hands. Seconds later she was past me and out the door. “Here you go,” said tech dude and I popped the flash disk into my pocket.

It’s not every day you bump into…
Exiting the hotel into the chilly New York afternoon, I realised that I now had the rest of the day to myself. I could do whatever I wanted before my flight back to Amsterdam the next morning.
Subsequently, I set about planning my afternoon. I was gonna grab a shake at Tick Tock, my favourite NYC diner. Afterwards, I’d take a walk out to West 18th Street for some browsing at Academy Records.
Free in New York City.

5th Avenue, New York City.
For dinner I’d decided on pizza at Bleecker Street with Simon & Garfunkel on the headphones. Finally, I’d take in the evening’s Manhattan views from the top of The Rockefeller. I remember making my way down the sidewalk as a flurry of yellow taxis zoomed past. One or two of them shrouded in the billowing smoke of a nearby drain. I recall wondering if, professionally at least, this autumnal New York afternoon was as good as it gets.
‘End of Watch’ is the third instalment of my short story series Notes From The Netherlands.
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47 Comments
now then leighton. i am no expert in the art of interviewing but it strikes me that for a first swing of the bat you did a grand job. starting off with a joke was a shrewd move i’d wager so important to get going on a positive note especially bearing in mind the short time you had. i also imagine there was a fair bit of nerves on your part not only to be in the company of the man but because you know you are responsible for supplying good content for the folks back in amsterdam. i like your closing paragraph that feeling of being free to wander nyc with no particular place to go (thanks for the loan chuck berry) is one that i know well.
Yo Stan, thanks for the kind words. You’re right about the nerves. Nerves because it was my first interview gig. And nerves because I wanted to get some quotes that would be useful for our weekly magazine shows. That afternoon/evening in NYC to wander at will after work was done was a magical time, I’ll always remember it.
Quite the adventure for your first time. Not having seen the movie, you’ve made me want to. Now I’ll have to find it somewhere. Your abandoned questions seem like a shame to discard. I would have rather heard them than the alleged friction with Michael Peña. But you have to do your job. Your plans for your New York free time sound interesting but then I’ve never been there either. Enjoyed the glimpse of your experience.
Yes, it is a pity that I couldn’t just follow my own agenda with the questions. And ideally have at least double the time to chat. But it was what it was and I’ll always be grateful for the opportunity. Cheers, Memo.
What an amazing job you found, and well deserved too after dealing with the nasty in-laws, and equally awesome experiences – bumping into Anna Kendrick? Wow! It seems like you nailed the interview with Jake as well and roused him out of his boredom. He’s probably still thinking – “I hope Leighton interviews me again someday”. 😉 Fun post Leighton!
Ha ha, yes I am sure Jake remembers my name, face and all those questions. Surprised he didn’t mention me in one of his award speeches 😉 Looking back I’m just so glad it wasn’t a disaster of some kind. He could have been in a foul mood, I could have stuttered my questions or rubbed him up the wrong way. Thanks for keeping up with the series Tricia.
Great story leighton, what an exciting experience professionally and personally. I have seen End Of Watch, a solid action flick but not as celebrated as Training Day which was the same director right? Was he floating around that day?
Hey James. Yup, David Ayer directed both ‘End of Watch’ and ‘Training Day’, oh and the first ‘Fast and the Furious’ too. As far as I know he wasn’t there that afternoon, or if he was I didn’t get a whiff of it. Sladja has never seen End of Watch so I guess it’s time for a rewatch sometime soon.
I’ve never even heard of either of those people you saw…. this is my blank area in general knowledge. Nevertheless to ge given a job where you’re indulging in a subject you know and love and consider a hobby must be a dream come true. Sounds like you felt it was just that. (Simon & Garfunkel….Only Living Boy In New York by any chance?).
I actually did listen to ‘Only Living Boy in New York’ yes, along with Bleecker Street and others. Thanks for keeping up with the series and hope you two are not too depressed to be back home. Just think, you have England winning the Euros to look forward to 😉
Great interview Leigbton, how exciting! By the way Brokeback Mountain was filmed in my backyard! We mountain bike in that area every summer.
Oh wow, that is a quite stunning area Maggie, how fortunate you are. I know in the film it’s supposed to be Wyoming but had forgotten that filming actually took place in southern Alberta. Thanks for reading!
You’ll have to come see it sometime 😊
It’s about 45 min from our house 😊
It is very cool that you got to interview Jake Gyllenhaal and it seems like the interview went very well. And meeting Anna Kendrick too.
It was all quite surreal at the time. And somehow already so long ago. Thanks for reading and contributing to the comment thread Thomas. 🙂
This is so cool! What an experience!
It was Anna, and not bad to get a free trip to NYC. I haven’t been back since sadly.
Wow, nice little earner!
Not too shabby.
In my opinion, ten minutes is a very short time to do a meaningful interview – without the actor getting bored … and you seem to have done well. After all, you got a smile from Mr. Gyllenhaal!
Yes it’s way too short. Ideally I’d have liked an hour so we could really get into it. But alas this factory floor style interviewing is the way they usually roll. A missed opportunity in many ways.
Nice work, was it a good earner ? At least I now know the bloke’s name as have seen him in numerous movies but will probably forget it in ten minutes.
The job was well-paid yes, no complaints on that front. But the best thing is that to me it just never felt like work. Unfortunately, that’s a feeling I’ve been unable to replicate since I left the company. Them’s the breaks.
That is an awesome post and I think you really nailed the few questions you had time to ask. What a great experience and what a great story. Bleecker Street and S & G on headphones….classic. When we visited the 59th Street Bridge, I have all of us film singing the 59th Street Bridge song (Feelin’ Groovy). Happy Monday Leighton. Allan
Thanks Allan. Sadly the time restraints dictate that you’ve gotta get those questions out quickly in a way that is designed to produce the right kind of snappy sound bites. Tricky, but something I think I got better at over the years. Ha, when at the 59th Street Bridge that really is the only course of action. Would love to see that video 😉
Our singing was so bad, it was good. 😁
It seems to me you did an amazing job interviewing Jake Gyllenhaal… to me he always comes across as someone who doesn’t really like that kind of stuff, and wants to get off the spotlight as soon as he can, and it’s not easy to interview someone with that demeanour. I can’t blame him, as you say, they often get asked the silliest questions, and they do have to do tons of these a day… but at the same time… I mean they have a pretty good job and get really well paid for it! 😉
I think there was something underlying about Jake’s demeanour that suggested he was indeed ‘tolerating’ the interviews that day. As you say, it’s something that’s simply part of the job that he is paid an extraordinary amount of money to do. I’m just glad he wasn’t rude, I saw plenty of those kinds of interviews on the company server.
It’s pretty cool that your first press interview was with someone legit famous. And you got to travel to New York City! What a great approach to come up with some unique and funny questions. Nicely done for your first interview!
It was a great adventure, thanks for reading 🙂.
Such an amazing thing to do have done – I don’t think I’d have been able to stay calm! And kudos to you for making the interview a bit ‘different’, it really must be hard to do dozens of interviews a day so I’m sure having some different questions made the world of difference!
Thanks Han. I don’t think I was very calm, but somehow managed to make it look like I was. It would have been nice to have had more time and the chance to have gone deeper into some things but had to make do with my brief slot just like everyone else. Thanks for reading!
It’s incredible you got to interview not just Gyllenhaal, but also I assume plenty of other A-listers during your entertainment gig. As much as I would be starstruck in your position, I appreciate that you captured the almost “normalcy” of Gyllenhaal himself: I think we forget that actors and actresses are also human and are susceptible to exhaustion and the common cold. Thanks for sharing your little interview with us, Leighton, and I look forward to reading more from you!
Thanks Rebecca. Yup, they are just regular folk like us in many ways, so how an interview plays out can be often be down to what kind of day they’re having. What’s going on in their lives, with their health, how much sleep they’ve had and so on. Thanks for reading 🙂
You really had an amazing job and I can only imagine the mixture of excitement and jitters before your first interview. I’d be pretty nervous as the ‘stars’ can be quite prickly. I have not seen this film but I feel quite curious after reading your article and especially your opinion that it is the best thing Gyllenhaal did after Brokeback Mountain. I hope you get the chance to ask him all the other questions some day. What were the other two actors like?
Hi Helena. I did eventually have my share of “prickly” stars and they were not fun experience I can tell you. While I may have believed that ‘End of Watch’ was one of his best at the time, I think in the years since that interview he’s appeared in some absolute gems. I’m thinking particularly of ‘Prisoners’ and ‘Nightcrawler’. As for the other actors, Michael Peña was super laid-back and Anna Kendrick super bubbly and full of energy. Thanks for reading!
You are right that actors often get asked the same question, good job making the interview unique! That’s such an awesome experience. I had my second celebrity spotting, Timothy Chamalet and Kylie Jenner, and we all just froze and stood across the street staring haha. Defiantly not cool, calm, and collected like you were!
That’s a major celebrity sighting, Timothée Chalamet seems to be everywhere I look these days. I would imagine NYC is stuffed full of famous folk if one can only recognise them. Thanks for reading and contributing Lyssy.
It must be intimidating to meet famous people, and with only so little time, you can’t fail to make contact quickly and get interesting answers. It pays to be passionate about your job, you’re inevitably better at it.
Thanks for the kind words. You’re right, the thing that also struck me about these brief interviews when I was researching such conversations on the company server was that if you get the first question “wrong” then you’re pretty much screwed for your ten minutes. There’s no time to “recover” so to speak and you’ve already lost the goodwill of your subject. Thanks for reading and commenting, it’s always appreciated. 🙂
I knew this was going to be a great story! I’m very impressed by your calmness and ability to conduct the interview without being starstruck!
Thanks Sarah, I’m glad you enjoyed the read. I think I did a good job of looking calm on the outside but I was all jangly on the inside. In any case as first interviews go it definitely gave me the confidence to handle late assignments.
Oh this was a.fantastic read! What an experience to get to be there and talk to him. I love that your question was completely unexpected and different. And to be the cause of a real, in the moment laugh like that I would say is the highlight of your 15 minutes of fame 🙂 thank goodness you didn’t have to lie about liking the movie. I cant imagine how awkward that must be for interviewers
Cheers Meg, so glad you enjoyed this one. Yes, not having to lie was fantastic. Especially as later on I kinda learned what that feeling is like. To have to grit your teeth a little and not be able to give your honest take on something.
Sounds like you nailed that interview! I would have liked to ask about filming Brokeback, a tour de force for both of the actors. And I had no idea he was the kid in City Slickers. Enjoyed reading this one.
Thanks a lot Ruth. Jake has indeed been around for a long time and is something of a Hollywood veteran despite still being only 43 years old.